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Why Lupe Fiasco’s “Lasers” Does NOT Suck Pt. 1, an OverviewPosted by Mike Dreams (Michael A. Hannah) on 03/03/11 | Filed under Top Stories, Features, Lupe Fiasco, Lasers |

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| XuUP17 |
Frankly I was pissed off to read Brando, who represents RefinedHype, trash such a revered artist so ruthlessly. I still haven't listened to the album, but I'm glad a more senior member of the DJBooth/RefinedHype staff has stepped in to tell the other side. |
| Posted on Mar 03, 2011 |
| SmokinAces |
Just because Lupe is revered does not mean that he is above making a subpar product. I mean, even Lupe admitted that this was not his strongest album. So I don't understand why anyone is obligated to like Lasers. |
| Posted on Mar 04, 2011 |
| SmokinAces |
Lupe fans have been waiting, fiending for this joint so long, that don't want to accept the fact maybe it wasn't worth the wait. |
| Posted on Mar 04, 2011 |
| Mike Dreams (Michael A. Hannah) |
But that just shows selfishness and ignorance then. You're a Lupe fan, and you were fiending for this album, and now it's not exactly what you thought it would be. Okay, first of all; it's not necessarily all about YOU (the fan); it's about the artist and where he's at. But even in that sense, it was Lupe's desire to deliver something his fans would appreciate too. I feel some of these "fans" would have more justification to disapprove on the album based on the grounds of failed expectations IF they have no prior understanding and acknowledgment of the situation Lupe had to go through. People act like he went in and made LASERS with NO OPPRESSION, and this is what he delivered. NO. You know exactly what he had to go through, and this was basically the best salvaging of the situation he can do. I'm pissed because these "fans" are acting so selfish and ignorance. It just shows who really supports and who doesn't... |
| Posted on Mar 04, 2011 |
| SunBear |
Yo, c'mon people just because you are a fan doesn't me you have to like/approve of everything your favorite artist does! Does it? @ Brando. Props for having an opinion and not being afraid to voice it (watch out for Lupe dick-riders though, they comin for ya) |
| Posted on Mar 04, 2011 |
| SunBear |
typo ^ "doesn't mean" (it's early here and my editor won't look at these online posts). |
| Posted on Mar 04, 2011 |
| x20nickel |
^Lupe doesn't have 'dick-riders' fans. We respect his work and who he is. His fans are far above that. Lupe is more of a teacher than a rapper. We became fans to appreciate that there is a rapper who doesn't rap about money & women, but raps about things to teach and connect. We don't listen to 'dick-ride'. Brando has every right to say what he wanted, but that won't stop me from being a Lupe fan. |
| Posted on Mar 04, 2011 |
| chicago7 |
@ Mike Dreams you have no idea how happy i am to read this article. I havnt even checked out part 2 yet but you are saying everything that i have been thinking about this album. I commented on the article that said his album was a fail so i been waiting for this. Phenomenal job cant wait to read the break down |
| Posted on Mar 04, 2011 |
| undadog4eva |
^thats fair enough...& we wouldnt expect anything less...but the fact remains, this is a real subpar album...beats are ok, too electro/will.i.am for me, lyrically he's still solid...but still subpar... @smokingaces totally on point...for lupe fans...ignorance is bliss! "I also cannot respect you if you call yourself a true fan, but you say this album SUCKS" - ur an idiot. so completely disagree with this article...where is jason & his rifle when you need him!!! |
| Posted on Mar 04, 2011 |
| RezzieTheRue |
I completely agree with this article so far... off to part two... |
| Posted on Mar 04, 2011 |
| Originality |
@undadog4eva: lol @ jason/rifle line. In response to part 1 and part 2, I like some things you said, but disliked the others. You are absolutely right when you say that people will dislike the album simply because of the "mainstream" feel. On the other hand, you say that true fans of Lupe have little right to be disappointed at all. You should have revised the line "I also cannot respect you if you call yourself a true fan, but you say this album SUCKS" with something such as "If you are a true fan, it would be almost impossible to proclaim this album SUCKS." This is because music is art. Some people will like it and some people won't. Many people who I believe are "music fans" (as stated in your second-to-last paragraph)will be able to find flaws on this album just as fast as you can find reasons to keep in in your rotation for quite a long time. It's also safe to say that you fight a war with the fact that this album was so label dictated. I believe many were brainwashed to think that the album wasn't stellar work because of the record company's interference. If someone hands you a plate of food proclaiming that they botched the recipe, would you believe that it would taste better if done correctly? I think most would. Therefore they can say "It's not true Lupe because of what the label did... so it sucks!" In the end, people are afraid to dedicate themselves to things. They are afraid that people will judge them upon it therefore they try to be objective when they are faced with that questionable topic. I think that some Lupe fans believe that this isn't good enough so they say "it isn't genuine Lupe." Therefore they can defend what they once liked without putting themselves in jeopardy. People are just insecure like that. Thanks for writing, Mike. P.S. Even though I had a couple problems with the Lil' B article, Brando represented the most recent anti-Lasers one very well. |
| Posted on Mar 04, 2011 |
| enigmAtic And ecstAtic (joshL) |
So Mike, you are saying that fans who were dissapointed with the product are selfish and ignorant? Just because these people are fans doesn't mean they must praise all of his music. How about you listen to each song and then form your opinion. Yeah, he went through a lot to get this album out, but that don't mean that anyone has to like it. It sucks, you know, I feel for Lupe the person, but I know I'm certainly not obligated to support the album. Music is subjective, its not predetermined outcome that all of Lupe's music is automatically great. |
| Posted on Mar 04, 2011 |
| PrinceB |
All I know is, I've been a Lupe fan since Kick,Push. Food and Liquor is one of my top 5 hiphop albums of all time. So I cant just DROP Lupe like that and say that this album is wack. We all know what Lupe is capable of. In the end, I cant really say what side Im on, but I'll give Lupe one more chance if he decides to put out one more album. I feel that most of us feel that same way. The ball is in his court right now. Everybody's watching to see what will he do next. This next album can be great. |
| Posted on Mar 04, 2011 |
| iMg |
I'm not a Lupe fan so I don't have a side here, but I gotta respect this site for giving columns on both sides of the coin. Great job on both parts Mr. Dreams. |
| Posted on Mar 04, 2011 |
| Randy Mercer |
With all do respect to Brando (somewhat) but his "review" of Lasers yesterday angered me, not so much in the "he's attacking one of my favorite artist," way; more in the but "he's attacking an artist who actually made quality music given his situation."; which to me was complete and utter bullshit. How can you possibly attack, no not critique a musician; an artist for doing what most musicians today could not do? "I don't Wanna Care right Now" wasn't a "Classic Lupe" beat it's was a techno, orchestra esque danceable song that could capture an ENTIRELY new audience. You're upset at Lupe because he took what otherwise could have been an "eh, heard it before" track and flipped it into something he could be proud of? Why? He barely did it but he did it. Kanye West was criticized for releasing 808's & Heartbreak which to me was/is one of the best albums ever created in a sub-genre of hip-hop (Hip-hop and R&b or alternative Hip-hop). Once again that review to me seemed like an attack that focused only on the negatives, which weren't really negatives. It pissed me off as a fan and a lover of music from all fields (pop, country, synth-pop, Indie rock, alternative, neo-Soul) that someone like Brando could be up-in-arms about an album that can go and capture a new crowd in and create a new lane. Common attempted the same thing with a lesser effect with UMC. Brando instantly criticized "I don't wanna care Right Now". "Out of My Head", "State Run Radio" calling them failures; yet he never mentioned "Till I Get There", "Beautiful Lasers" "Letting Go" (which opened the album) nor "Never Forget You". How can I respect a "review" that seemed like a premeditated bash-fest (if you will)? this album is anomalistic, irregular for Lupe Fiasco. Yet he pulled it off, you want to bash him for that? If so Hip-Hop does not deserve Lupe Fiasco. If that sounds like I'm overrating him and his work, well then you clearly don't have the same amount of respect for Lupe Fiasco as I do. I'd respect not liking the album, to a certain extent; a structured critique is nice now and then however, what I read yesterday was anything but that. |
| Posted on Mar 04, 2011 |
| Nathan S. |
I think Lupe's biggest mistake was in saying that Atlantic compromised parts of the album. Now we're all listening to it searching for spots that might be Atlantic made, even if they weren't. It's created a paranoid listening experience. |
| Posted on Mar 04, 2011 |
| Mike Dreams (Michael A. Hannah) |
Yup, I believe you hit it right on the nose Nathan. This is one of those times where he sort of shouldn't have talked about the situation as much, and just let things run it's course. But he's probably still traded on how he exactly feels about the situation, so talking about it is most likely therapeutic; but yeah, that's what I try and make people realize. Lupe has always been out of the box and he was planning on making some records with expansive sound on this album ANYWAYS. Atlantic just came in and did a little extra than what his original plans were... |
| Posted on Mar 04, 2011 |
| Brando |
Mike & I had a LONG discussion about LASERS over Twitter and I see a lot of you coming in attacking me and picking sides, which I believe is the point of any passionate fan. Either you liked it or you didn't which is fine. Like I told Mike (& maybe didn't mention it in the article but its a valid point) - in order to get LASERS, you have to whitewash all the politics that went on behind the project and see it for what it is, the junior album by one of music's loudest voices. However, I'm the type of guy who takes in EVERYTHING an artist says or does leading up to a project. My venom spewed more from Lupe's backtracking and coming out telling people "I don't like the record" knowing full well people listen to his every word. Had it been me who protested and then he told me that, I would have been offended because I defended him. While those songs people have mentioned are great to THEM (and Mike, who wrote a brilliant rebuttal), they aren't to me. Like I said before, Lupe is one of the FEW rappers who's earned my bottom dollar but you can't tell me I can't be disappointed in what I consider a subpar album. Especially one people demanded. Originally this was supposed to be anarchy music (hence the anarchy symbol on the cover) but who's going to riot to this? And please, don't bring up Universal Mind Control. I saw it performed live (before it dropped) and people had the same confused faces they did when it came out. That thing was a coaster too. It's not in the same class as 808s for two reasons: one it doesn't have some of the SIMPLEST rhyming from a guy who is arguably Top 5. Second, UMC was largely forgotten thankfully while 808s essentially set the pace for the next two years of music (see Drake). No comparison, at all. To me LASERS was a trainwreck of label politics and general apathy to appease said label. If it's Lu's most commercially successful effort, Atlantic wins & Lu still loses. Which is why I said we all lose (as fans) in the end. |
| Posted on Mar 04, 2011 |
| Brando |
@SunBear I awaited them wait open arms. Ha! |
| Posted on Mar 04, 2011 |
| Brando |
*with |
| Posted on Mar 04, 2011 |
| FredRico |
(this is a response to Brando's "Lupe Fiasco Failed Us All", but I'm positive it serves the discussion in this post too...) I completely disagree with this article and anyone blaming Lupe for the failure of Lasers. Worse, daring to question Lupe's greatness. First, I dislike 65% of Lasers, so this is not about being a biased fan. I hated the "MDMA" (whatever that is. Is it a robot? A computer program?) type of chorus and shameless radio/charts-friendly sound. But how obvious is it that Lupe wasn't the one behind that? More importantly, how could you have not seen this wreck coming?! Lupe made it clear (in countless interviews) during all these years of drama with Atlantic that something was terribly wrong, and that he had no control over this project. Whatever concepts he had behind "Lasers", people should have guessed it wouldn't turn out to be what Lupe envisioned. So I don't see how you can claim that "people were expecting just Lupe (music), and he failed them". What people? Only clueless, completely unaware fans. Now it's easy to sit there holier than thou and judge the man for letting the album come out in the shape it did, because he "can't disown his own album, he had the choice not to drop it, blahblahblah..." but what do you know about what Lupe's been through? Who's in the position (to know all the nasty politics behind "Lasers") to say he can't disown his album? First, he was pressed by the hip hop community to release the album and stop being so "stubborn", and learn to "give and take" with the label (i.e., make a hit, commercial single); even the movement the fans made to demand the album was a gift and a curse, as in it pressed the label, but also Lupe, to drop something, to give to the people, anything, before they gave up on him and to compensate their effort. After all, the fans’ protest sent a message to the label to "drop the album already", not to "let Lupe do his thing"! The protest didn't necessarily mean Lupe earned control over the situation. Like it was argued, it even served as marketing for Atlantic. It only meant Lupe had to "give" something. But we all seem to forget what Lupe had been saying! He was even considering not ever dropping "Lasers", if not the way he envisioned, and instead go on recording and releasing "Food and Liquor II, III, The Cool II, III..." his own words! How significant is that?! Can't you see that there's a desperate man, here? The situation was so shitty that it was worth dropping a crappy album and get it over with, as long as he'd hopefully get dropped from the label (which he has also often made public... again, I don't know what else people were expecting). Sometimes things are a lot simpler than we think, even though disturbingly strange (but that's reality for you). The way I see it is, a great artist (Lupe) can drop a weak album ("Lasers" - but only for Lupe's standards) because of label politics, but still keep his credibility untouched (SLR, All black everything, Words I never said). That’s it. Overall, the intellectual dishonesty people are revealing when approaching this topic is overwhelming. Saying that it’s ultimately his responsibility just because they didn’t point a gun to his head? Really?! We can’t just pretend Lupe didn’t have a lot of struggle by generalizing a process that had clearly unique adversities and outcomes. This is not Big Boi, who is a veteran in the industry and has enjoyed enough commercial success to be daring enough to pull his own thing. Jumping on Lupe now with criticism when he's clearly on the ground is borderline coward. PS: “He recorded the songs, it's clearly HIS voice, he has noone to blame but himself.” Really, that’s as simplistic, shallow and misleading as it gets. @matza, cosign! I’ll insist that you have no business talking about the making and result of “Lasers” without reading this: https://leisureblogs.chicagotribune.com/turn_it_up/2011/03/lupe-fiasco-discusses-the-making-of-lasers-it-was-destroying-me.html For my part, I’m just glad Lupe didn’t kill himself... |
| Posted on Mar 05, 2011 |
| Randy Mercer |
Actually I wasn't comparing UMC to 8O8's, I know for a fact that UMC didn't set any pace and is very forgettable; I was comparing UMC to Lasers. I agree Nathan it did create a paranoid listening experience. I also agree with Brando's point that LASERS was a trainwreck of label politics. To me it seems like attacking Lupe for an album that has a mainstream SOUND(not mainstream lyrics) is... I don't have a word. I will not say that Lupe failed us (me) because until he teams up with a chick that can't sing and two other b-boy sellouts (Blackeyed Peas) Lupe is still good. But should we hope that this album doesn't do well? |
| Posted on Mar 05, 2011 |
| zmcpherson |
@chicago7 and mike dreams i have been thinking the exact thing, im a big fan of pop but love pac, nas, and lupe. i think this album is on a higher level when it comes to the lyrics and chorus. the music critics in this era are wack and too many people are allowing them to influence their oppinions and take away their voice. "the instrumental" for the "true" lupe fans |
| Posted on Mar 23, 2011 |
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