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This Is My Rifle: Homosexuality & Hip HopPosted by Jason James on 03/23/11 | Filed under Top Stories, Features, This Is My Rifle |

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Richard |
Interesting read! Honestly, I don't see the "Imma Homo" song/video's treatment of homosexuality as being any more silly or over-the-top than mainstream hip-hop's portrayal of heterosexual sex - if anything, it's more positive. |
| Posted on Mar 23, 2011 |
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Set_Gecko |
There was really no need for you to explain that you are not a homosexual in the beginning of the article. It gives this article PETA spin, rather than human rights one, because it's like you are saying "they are not normal, but at least lets have some compassion to them", you know, treat them like animals, but gently (lol) Let me try to explain man homosexuality: from the beginning of history, everythin that makes a man, well, a "homo sapiens", a man, is UNNATURAL to begin with. It's not natural to take a stick and make a mean of production out of it. It's not natural to have abstract thinking. It's not natural to walk around in clothes. It's not natural to pollute earth, it's not natural to send a someone in space in metal box with engine. In the end it is not natural to LOVE. so saying "homosexuality is not natural" is nonsense. Moving on. I consider gay love as a way of expressing trust and respect between two man through intimacy. some other people might find friendship sufficient enough, others may not. matter of preference. |
| Posted on Mar 23, 2011 |
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Almost Forgotten |
Co-sign with Richard, very interesting article. You don't often get that on hip hop blogs, the RefindHype Nation is lucky! I'll have to agree with Set_Gecko's first statement that your adamantly reiterating your heterosexuality was unnecessary, especially in light of the fact that the very next sentence you scold those who feel the childish need to say "no homo." I agree with your assessment of hip-hop's uber-masculine tones, but I'll have disagree with your statement that we're "not ready" for a homosexual hip-hop artist. Homosexuality does not necessarily imply femininity. What if the artist had a masculine can't-fuck-with-me attitude such as Omar from The Wire? I just find it hard to believe that a dope artist would be passed over because of their personal sexual preference. "As a man, I’ve never understood male homosexuality." I think this quote speaks volumes of where many of us are with our homosexual brothers and sister. We have this idea in our heads that they are somehow very different from ourselves and are easy to spot (i.e. the stereotypical flamboyant gay man). |
| Posted on Mar 23, 2011 |
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NJ_Static |
first That dyke turner line made me really laugh, and the whole article reminds me of the boondocks episode, with the gay rapper Gangstalicious. I really do think that Hip Hop could handle a homosexual rapper, if they had serious talent. Remember when Lil Wayne kissed Baby? The guy he calls Baby and Daddy. Even when everyone was thinking Lil Wayne was gay, it didn't hurt his career at all. I know its not the same as openly admitting to being but i thinks its a good sign that a gay rapper could make it. Though the rapper won't be able to a be a gangsta rapper though. Women are one of the most popular topics in hip hop, i don't think even the most open minded listener would openly listen to rap music from a man about men unless they were gay themselves.I think thats why a lesbian rapper has a better chance than a gay rapper. If you really asked yourself would you still Listen to Jay-z, Lil Wayne, Lupe Fiasco, 50 cent or whoever your favorite rapper is if they said they were gay? I have to say yea as long as their music doesn't change. And if there was ever a chance for a gay rapper to come out would be now, its more acceptable now than ever. Im pretty sure there's a whole gay community of hip hop lovers that would support them. |
| Posted on Mar 23, 2011 |
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SmokinAces |
Everybody here is playing the whole we are the world role right now lol. I don't see anyone, especially young black men, bumping music from an openly gay rapper unless, like Jason said, they are CRAZY talented. I compare it somewhat to when white rappers were not as prominent as they are now. It took a guy like Eminem, one of the best rappers ever, or Beastie Boys, hip hop legends, to really get hip hop to accept white rappers. And if you look at them, they were both backed by very strong prominent figures in the game. I don't know if anyone will really co sign an openly gay rapper. It will more than likely lead people to question the co signer. Like could you see Jay-Z or 50 Cent pushing a gay rapper? I just don't see it happening. |
| Posted on Mar 23, 2011 |
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SmokinAces |
BTW, I don't know if anyone remembers this dude named Kaushion or something like that. He got a little notoriety for being an openly gay rapper. But 1) It came off very gimmicky and 2) no one was really willing to back or support him, at least not publicly. |
| Posted on Mar 23, 2011 |
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Danielle Harling |
I honestly don't think I could ever picture Hip Hop fully accepting an "openly" gay rapper. Emphasis on the word "openly" because who knows what your favorite rappers are doing behind closed doors, but that's a whooole 'nother story. Personally, I wouldn't have a problem with a gay rapper. But I'm just one person and Hip Hop can be pretty close-minded. |
| Posted on Mar 23, 2011 |
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SmokinAces |
^and you're a female. Females are usually more accepting of homosexuals than males. |
| Posted on Mar 23, 2011 |
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Jason James |
@ Richard- I agree.. I think it's just more shocking because of the gay content.. @ Set_Gecko- Haha.. You're right.. I took a pre-emptive strike against anybody insinuating that I might be gay after writing this article.. My own homophobia bled through in the first paragraph.. You make an interesting point.. Although I personally believe that love is the core of human life.. Everything positive in the universe is born from it.. But still, it's a good point.. @ Almost Forgotten- Thanks homie! Yeah, as I stated above, I think my own inability to cope with homosexuality came out in the first paragraph.. It's funny you mention that.. I met an openly gay man from The Bronx once and he was the typical dude from the block.. I guess it's just a matter of dealing with the stereotypes and putting them to the back of your mind when looking at artistic expression.. Again, you're right.. I don't know how to get past the general perspective of gay men but hopefully someday I'll overcome it.. @ NJ_Static- Very good point.. I totally forgot about that and you're right.. It didn't hurt his sales at all.. If anything, it boosted them.. Definitely.. The subject matter of a gay rapper would be even more narrow than a straight one simply because the already tiny box put around Hip Hop artists would get smaller.. A lesbian would work simply because she would be able to fit the image easier.. Probably not, but can we say the same for most of the general public? @ SmokinAces- Great comparison.. It's one I thought of when writing the article but I didn't apply it for some reason.. I really don't think a Jay-Z or 50 Cent would co-sign a gay rapper for that exact reason.. Guilt by association.. Haha.. I remember that dude.. But I think unfortunately for him he was pushing his sexuality a bit too much.. @ Danielle- Haha no doubt.. And let me be the first to say it's nice to see a female around here for once.. |
| Posted on Mar 24, 2011 |
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SunBear |
I thought 50 Cent was gay? Cam told me so. |
| Posted on Mar 24, 2011 |
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SunBear |
Also those pics with Soulja Boy... |
| Posted on Mar 24, 2011 |
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tbaby oohwee |
well I no dat ive been gau for bout 15yrs n im so dam happy but not to say dat I wasnt happy wit men it was just strange azz hell cus wen saw a fine azz lady I was like dam she look good n it really turn me on n I liked da feelin it gave me n after a while a man just didnt do shit 4me no dam more n da bed .nothin against men @all I JUST FALL N LOVE WIT SUMONE N SO HAPPEN TO B A LADY go n check out my video im outhere doin me days all youtube:(TBABY MY GIRL GOT A GIRLFRIEND) |
| Posted on Mar 24, 2011 |
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Originality |
Yea, opening paragraph was a little contradictory, but nonetheless, interesting topic. Homosexuality can be perceived in so many ways, so opinions are just opinions. I feel that homosexuality is in a difficult spot right now (when it comes to hip-hop/other pop culture). I have a lot of respect for a homosexual attempting to survive in this biased world. Unfortunately, many homosexuals feel the need to dress, act, and scream it out to everyone in an attempt to make a point. It's almost a backtrack. I understand the whole "embrace your differences" movement, but sometimes I think society has difficulty accepting people who are different from the norm. So here's my thought: If you introduce a rapper to the game who is just overall solid, and allow him to just rap about stuff people wanna hear, then after he's established he says "Oh, I'm gay.", and see the response. It would be much easier for that person to succeed than for someone wearing flamboyant clothing advocating homosexuality. You would need an effect similar to what Eminem did for white people. The thing about hip-hop is that doors need to be opened and entered gradually. People won't accept you if you just barge through. |
| Posted on Mar 24, 2011 |
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Jason James |
@ SunBear- If 50 was gay I don't think he'd be so blatant about it.. @ tbaby oohwee- Whoa.. I felt like I was reading morse code.. @ Originality- I know, I know.. I was worried about a sensitive audience.. Shoulda remembered I write for Refined Hype haha.. Absolutely.. And I think that's been the problem that's given the gay community a bad wrap in general.. Just the out of their mind flamboyantly "look how gay I am!" gay dudes.. I think a gay rapper might work if he was already solidified like you stated above but he might still receive some serious hate on behalf of fans and other rappers throwing jabs.. |
| Posted on Mar 24, 2011 |
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1stround-ko |
I stopped reading the article when the author said "Let me make this clear, I am in no way, shape or form gay." Who cares? I don't expect the sports writers to say "I am in no way a Knicks fan." |
| Posted on Mar 24, 2011 |
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Young Mo Fo |
First off, at the end I like what you said: "Over the years I’ve had gay friends but none of them were the typical flamboyantly gay male you see on television so I’ve never really had to face it. Of course, you see it from time to time, but for me it’s always been a case of, “just saw it and now I’m gonna do my best to forget it”." Seeing one homosexual who acts overly flamboyant and feminine is just making the stereotypes worse. Like black ignorant men/women that think "Bein a fool is cool", or being a dopeboy is the way to live life. Makes the whole community of a given stereotype look bad. Like if a white dude is racist, etc. Just giving people the wrong idea. With that said, I judge people by personality. I won't hate someone if they didn't give me a specific reason (talk behind my back, steal a girl, steal a car..etc). If you're a chill person, we're cool, and thats it. As far as gay rappers are concerned, its not going to be accepted until someone as big as (at least) Cam'Ron or Busta Rhymes comes out the closet. Maybe that won't even be enough though. Personally, I think Busta Rhymes is on the DL but you never know. If Lil Wayne said he was gay, it wont help because of respect level. If Nas and Raekwon said they were gay, then thats the biggest type of step that can be taken. A respected rapper must be the first public admittance. Good article homie, but I don't think any homo-superstar-rapper is going to come out any time soon. |
| Posted on Mar 25, 2011 |
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Young Mo Fo |
PS Cosign @NJ_Static I would still listen if they were gay, as long as the music was generally the same. I like music that I can relate to mostly, so it would be hard to relate to a gay man's life. (Maybe because my small mind can't just simple replace words in my head and just transfer the same thing but with a girl in the same situation). Just a last thought... |
| Posted on Mar 25, 2011 |
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SuperNaye |
So yeah, i'm not straight. Obviously, I dont mind homo hip hop and hopefully some great LGBT MCs/rappers can come out from this. Like you said though, I dont think it's going to happen soon, but it is happening. The market is out there and it is gaining attention. If the music is good and you can feel it, then it shouldn't matter what their sexual orientation is. As for right now, the only thing they can do is keep doing them and making the music they want to hear. |
| Posted on Mar 25, 2011 |
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Jason James |
@ Young Mo Fo- Thanks homie.. It's unfortunate but that's exactly the problem with stereotypes.. Every group has a small number of people who don't do shit but perpetuate those old, stupid ideas.. In terms of the gay community that's how they've been portrayed in the media so it's a step in the right direction to tone it down and just be a human being.. I'm the same way.. I give everybody a chance regardless of race, sexual orientation, religion, etc.. Everything's cool until they fuck me over.. I just don't see it happening.. I'm sure there are more than a few rappers in the closet and I'm pretty sure they'll be staying there until their careers are over.. @ SuperNaye- Good to get your opinion on this.. I agree that the market is out there, and if it was to happen, it has to be done carefully.. Very true.. I'm a huge fan of both Freddie Mercury (Queen) and Elton John and not once has their sexual preference crossed my mind when listening to their music.. I think the key is to stay ambiguous and generalize the music as much as possible.. |
| Posted on Mar 27, 2011 |
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Gabriella |
I think it was completely unnecessary (and so out of the way) to state that you are not in any way homosexual. It doesn't matter if you are or not. You do on the other hand come off as a little homophobic. First of all, Hip-Hop has several subcultures. There's "Christian Hip-Hop", "Latin Hip-hop", and even "Gay Hip-Hop" so what's "mainstream" anymore? There are a ton of lesbian and gay hip-hop artists who have a solid fan base and support. It probably will never the norm because sadly, homosexuality is not seen as normal. People like and listen to what they can relate to. There's room for everyone. It's none of my business nor do I care what people do in the privacy of their bedrooms. Heterosexual rappers talk explicitly about their sexual encounters so why shouldn't this group be allowed to do the same? I love hip-hop! I really do, but I read this and I understand why so many gays & lesbians are against hip-hop. Why support something or someone who doesn't support you? |
| Posted on Mar 27, 2011 |
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curtis0512 |
but see if you saw lil wayne or kanye west come out then their music publicity would drop from the homo- fobes out there and eventually it would either come down to the public accepting it or shunning them |
| Posted on Mar 30, 2011 |
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nick13g |
I feel as though everyones speaking as though Missy Elliot and Nicki MInaj both haven't admitted it? There is obviously already famous and succesfull LESBIAN rappers/artist, but a male rapper is not often found or accepted. So basically the homophobic discrimination is towards the males. Will time pass and eventually be accepted....mm maybe. But I just know for the time being male gays have more of a chance of success in the music industry if they go more the R&B or pop route compared to that of rap or hip hop(depending on what you listen too). |
| Posted on Mar 31, 2011 |
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