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This Is My Rifle: The Secret Behind Canadian Rap MediocrityPosted by Jason James on 02/16/11 | Filed under Top Stories, Features, This My Rifle |

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undadog4eva |
wow long post! lol...but very good! the situations you describe in canada are along the same lines in australia as well! We dont have any hiphop acts,& the ones we do have, all flee to the states as soon as the opportunity presents itself! lol! sidenote: have you heard of a canadian rapper called Shad? he is really good. |
| Posted on Feb 17, 2011 |
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tdotraza |
"I know, you kill the beat like no one else But me- literally the rhyme speak for itself I never ran to the States tryin' to get signed For me it was never "Get Rich Or Die Tryin'" Broke tradition and made 'em go the distance "Signed, Sealed, Delivered" but on my own conditions" -Classified, "Self Explanatory" First thing I thought of when I read this article. Artists like Classified and k-os are fairly successful, and they came up networking well. Not everyone aspires for major mainstream attention. You can make a living as an artist without that. For these guys, as long as they're making enough and their integrity is not comprised, they're fine. @undadog4eva Shad is amazing. "Livin' on the street, nah I'm livin' on the road- consistent Making fans multiply like a coefficient Record sales, I'm making low commission, but the vision's mine They don't change my record like pitchin' a no decision" |
| Posted on Feb 17, 2011 |
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Jason James |
@ undadog4eva- Yeah I think it's pretty much the same story everywhere if you live outside of The States and The UK.. It's just that Canada drives me crazy because it's literally just an extended part of the USA.. It's not so much the artist's faults, it's the lackluster industry.. And yeah, I've heard of Shad.. Another great example of a talented dude finding a home in The States.. @ tdotraza- True.. I've always though Classified was dope.. I just believe that he would've found more success a lot faster if he had've focused his efforts on NYC which is relatively close to Halifax.. And that's not a jab in his direction, just my own thoughts.. |
| Posted on Feb 17, 2011 |
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Originality |
This was eye-opening to me. I didn't know how different Canada was from the U.S. Very cool. Unfortunately Canada music to U.s. music is going from one broken system to another. That's pretty disappointing. On another note, maybe somebody should start a label in Canada that works like an American label. Maybe they'd be the next Canadian Diddy or somethin'. Interesting article. Thanks for writing. |
| Posted on Feb 17, 2011 |
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nick13g |
@Originality-I also had the same thoughts i think making an American Label could be successful, then i started thinking about the other problems James spoke about, it would take A LOT of time to evolve and money to start a successful American record label. I don't think most labels would risk nor be patient enough to make a label in Canada. Well thats just my thoughts based on James' comments above. |
| Posted on Feb 17, 2011 |
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Jason James |
@ Originality- Thanks homie.. Yeah.. In terms of culture, Canada and the U.S. are pretty much the same but when it comes to the entertainment industry, they're worlds apart.. And very true, they are definitely both broken systems but the American system is better organized and waaayyy more powerful.. I've thought about starting my own independent label many times over and the one thing that I'm missing is a large enough investment to get it off the ground.. I'd do it if I had the money to do it properly.. @ nick13g- Absolutely man.. It takes a high level of commitment and dedication to actually create a semi-successful indie label.. Especially in Hip Hop where record sales are at an all time low.. In terms of doing it in Canada, you might as well just throw your money into a deep dark hole.. Haha.. |
| Posted on Feb 17, 2011 |
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iMg |
I learned a lot here, great job. |
| Posted on Feb 17, 2011 |
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Jason James |
No doubt homie.. Thanks! |
| Posted on Feb 17, 2011 |
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Nathan S. |
Can I pat myself on the back for finding that wack pic or Drake and the Toronto Raptor? Now, let me pat Jason James on the back for doing on of the better artist breakdowns I've read in a minute, Canadian or otherwise. |
| Posted on Feb 17, 2011 |
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Ronin |
Wow.....hearing you talk about the Canadian hip hop scene is like when I think of the Minnesota Vikings. I grew up in the middle of the Golden Era and I have lived in the American system of hip hop that you are talking about for 20 years. It sounds like the Canadian problem isn't only about people not knowing what they're doing. It sounds like there is a lack of pride from being Canadian. If an mc comes out from anywhere in the US and they don't rep where they're from in some way, they won't really make much noise. And if they are lucky enough to make some noise, it won't be for long. Also, it sounds like there is a lack of participation on several different levels. Btw, I'm not a fan of Drake and ever since I first heard him, I thought (and I still think) he's biting Lil' Wayne's flow and style. If artists from Canada are as lazy as you say, then there should be no question why there isn't more exposure for Canadian artists. Hustling isn't only about making money. It also isn't just a Disneyland image of a rapper. To be successful at anything you have to hustle and if you don't, you don't deserve to be recognized. How much an artist invests in their craft is evidence of their hustle. Hustling is also the reason why there are so many retarded mc's out there like Soulja Boy Tellem, Gucci Mane and I could go on for days. But with the paradigm that you set up, is it ok because they make money? To me it sounds like the problems of the US system (as you put it) trickled down to the Canadian system. In the US, you can make a living off music if you have a little bit of skill as long as you make the right connections. The problem with that is there are only so many that the industry will allow at one time and they come and go with the trends. Mainstream rap is probably about 6 months to a year behind the underground scene. By the time an artist like Jay Electronica gets signed to Roc Nation, he's only putting out greatest hits albums. I write about hip hop and the first thing about hip hop is that rap is not the only thing in the world. It's a culture and it includes graffiti, dj-ing, rapping and breaking. What's portrayed in the media is the biggest bastardization of this culture. What is in the media is an infomercial satire of music, fashion and humanity. I write about hip hop that I think is valuable and even if there is something dope that just dropped, I will still be writing about those classic albums from the 90's, 2000's and from now. Hip hop is the continuation of previous musical genre that tells the story of minorities in the US and any artist that thinks their work is less significant is wasting everyone's time. Ronin www.boywithstick.com www.ra-nyc.com |
| Posted on Feb 17, 2011 |
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Jason James |
@ Nathan- Thanks homie.. I just felt like letting the world know how unbelievably bad it is in Canada haha.. @ Ronin- True.. But I think that the lack of pride in being Canadian comes from the pressure of fans and labels in Canada expecting artists to be like their American counterparts.. Originality is something that is not celebrated in Canada and the #1 reason why artists like myself have made our moves in the US.. To answer your question, no it's not ok just because they make money.. But they are a shining example of an opportunity being readily available to "strike while the iron's hot" so to speak.. The worst part about it is, the more garbage that comes out in the American mainstream, it doubles in the Canadian mainstream because they mimic everything that happens in The States.. It's just that they're like 3 years behind so not only is it an awful carbon copy of something that was terrible to begin with, but it's after the trend has already passed.. And I couldn't agree more with what you said about the underground.. The only thing is, we need a more stable business model for independent artists so that when the majors come calling, we no longer need them for anything and can continue building from where we are.. Absolutely, I couldn't agree more.. What's represented in the mainstream media is a completely diluted and warped idea of what Hip Hop really is.. |
| Posted on Feb 17, 2011 |
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Ronin |
So...there aren't any underground spots that let local acts perform? That's crazy if its true. If there are no local spots for local acts to perform, does that mean that there aren't enough people to fill up these spots?...not even one? |
| Posted on Feb 17, 2011 |
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Practical Stylist |
Pretty tight article. Canada still kills it down everyday and when you travel the country you can see the passion of the people towards music. Without Canadians Hollywood would have dried up to an even more crusty state than it is in now a long time ago! We supply a disproportionate amount of the talent for the "American machine". Just by the amount of Canadian's employed in the American music machine one can see the influence that our little quirky weed smoking nation has upon the rest of the world! Sure, Toronto is a little tree house club of a music scene but CANADIANS ARE EVERYWHERE and the Canadian influence can be felt worldwide. Anyone that wants to hate on Canada's music machine should explain the lack of creativity and gumption possesed by super frail American artists. Please. Wacka Fucka? Rick Foss? Nicki Miraj? I hope we never reach that state of ignorant fuckery up here. Only recently have we begun to mimic this idiocy from South of the Border (we used to copy the UK which is much fresher than America in my (wee idiotic opinion). Canada has and always will have a rich musical history that isn't based on large scale American propaganda and bottom line spread sheets. That is all. |
| Posted on Feb 24, 2011 |
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mrmech |
Good article on the Canadian Music Industry. Canadian major labels are too conservative about making money. But this is a much bigger problem then Canadian music industry, it is a Canadian business issue. But only stating that oversimplifies the issues with Canada. With that said, there are a few additional issues to the Canadian music industry, especially when it comes to Hip Hop. To compare Canada to the US, we have to remember that Canada, for a larger land mass, has 1/10th of the US population (put in another way, Canada fits in Greater New York City or Greater Los Angeles). Local support, which many of the talented artists have, would NEVER make a major label budge, especially in this market. Most Canadian cities with less then 1 million people, marketing a new form of music (yes as much as we want to say it’s 30 years old, it’s new compared to the rest of music) and getting significant numbers takes a lot of effort and money for small results (e.g., nobody in Canada is selling 40,000 albums in their own town independently, let alone 4,000. it’s more like 400). With that in mind, there isn’t many ways to market hip hop music in Canada. There’s the internet and touring, that’s it (e.g., Classified is a perfect example of that reality). And this brings another problem. You don’t have Hip hop heads managing the hip hop industry on this side. The US is filled up the ranks with people who are hip hop fans. And that makes the reality of Canada even worst because they don’t even understand the market. We don’t’ have a Lyor Cohen at the top of WB Canada. The rock and roll dude just doesn’t get it. Another problem is that major labels have yet to realize the Canadian hip hop identity, which IS NOT American. Gucci Mane’s life story relates to less then 100,000 people in Canada, so how are you going to sell a Canadian equivalent?? We may disagree or not like his sound, but Drake is a true Canadian hip hop artist: an artist, from the middle class, who talks about his own situation, his own story. Classified is the same, K-Os is the same, Shad is the same. And Canadians relate to that! But I digress. Let’s not forget that Canadian labels answer to the same shareholders as American labels, so Canada has the same system and that’s actually the problem.. As I’ve been told too many times by sales reps, Canada as a market isn’t a priority for the US companies, whatever you’re selling. And cost of putting out an artist is the same on both side of the border. Until Canada approaches its market separately from the US, we’ll have problems. |
| Posted on Feb 24, 2011 |
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Karch |
the situation is just going to get worse now that 93.5 has been bought out in Toronto...at the very least they had certain shows that were promoting a bit more of the indie Hip Hop scene (The Real Frequency to name one)...but with CHUM now at the helm the whole station has gone to crap... |
| Posted on Mar 22, 2011 |
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